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[Gustovic]

From Bols

Command Squad Boxes will include all the special weapons in plastic (1 of each), 3 different officer heads, several different close combat weapons (Swords, Fists etc), various embellishments, 2 suits of officer armor, one more practical one more dressy, and 4 Cadians with a few new/special heads.
- The Stormtrooper greens with the shotguns do not imply that IG Stormtroopers will be getting shotguns, but are instead for WH Arbites-style Stormtroopers.
- Stormtroopers will not be released in the first wave, but instead may be released with an Inquisitor supplement oriented around Planetfall.
- The new Ratlings are nice, the new psykers, not so much.
- Commissars still exist in a capacity different to what they do now. They are allowed to attach to certain squads. However once a Commissar Lord is taken they have more freedom and there can be more of them. They are also cheaper(almost half of what they are now).
- IG Sniper Squads, in addition to getting infiltrate, stealth, rangefinders, and sniper rifles will also get camo cloaks.
- Vet Squads probably won’t be upgrades for platoons.
- While sentinels, chimeras, and hellhounds will be able to attach to platoons as support vehicles, demolishers will not.
- Support Squads are different now and are platoon attachments not command squad attachments.
- Basic squad loadout will be 10 Lasguns or 9 Lasguns and a Laspistol for 40 points.
- Platoon Drill will require a vox network.
- Some squads will have access to heavy flamers.
- New Catachan plastics will have scaled down arms.
- No greatcoat plastics.
- Ogryns will be T5, 4+ save, and FNP for the same price they are now.
- Ogryns have no new models. At least not yet. The newish ones are current.
- Some, but not all, tanks will be able to fire sponson weapons as Defensive weapons.
- Cadian Rough Riders will be in the 1.5 wave.
- Leman Russ boxes will include parts to make LRBT, Demolisher, Vanquisher, and Exterminator.
- Chimera boxes will have parts for 3 other variants (including Hellhound). The Chimera will have 6 variants (though some of these sound like they’re just different Chimera weapon options).
- Basilisk boxes may come with parts for Medusas and Griffons.
- While you’ll be able to field more armor, you won’t be able to field an armored company as part of the regular codex.
- And while you’ll be able to field more tanks, the true strength will be the numbers of guardsmen you can field. 110 Points for 25 Guardsmen with nothing but flashlights.
- The Valkyrie will be different from the FW version, but not any huge difference.
- A Spearhead Sentinel is one that is equipped with heavier weapons and meant to be the spearhead of an attacking force. It lacks Scout moves or the like but has slightly better front armor and several variant weapons.

From Warseer

Troops:
Penal Legion: LD 8; Scout, Stubborn, Desperados

Chimera 55pts; 12/10/10; Standard with Multilaser and hull heavy bolter; Upgrade Multilaser to Heavy Bolter or heavy flamer for free; storm bolter or heavy stubber +10pts; Hunter killer Missile 10pts; Dozer Blade +10; extra armor +15; camo net +20.

Hellhound 12/12/10 Tank, Fast (Inferno Cannon R12 S6 AP4 Heavy 1 Template no rolls to hit on partials)
Devildog 12/12/10 Tank, Fast (Fusion Cannnon R24 S8 Ap1 Heavy 1 Blast)
Bane Wolf 12/12/10 Tank, Fast ("Chemical Cannon" S1 AP3 Heavy1 Template; Always hits on 2+)

All Leman Russ: Move 6" and fire all weapons or fire nothing and move 6" plus roll 1d6 and move 3,5,8,12,15 inches more.

LR Battle Tank 14/13/10
LR Exterminator 14/13/10 (Autocannon, Twin Linked Heavy 4)
LR Vanquisher 14/13/10 (AP2 Heavy 1 +1d6 to penetration)
LR Eradicator 14/13/10 (Nova Cannon, 36" S6 AP4 Ordnance, Ignore Cover Save)
LR Demolisher 14/13/11
LR Punisher 14/13/11 (Punisher Gatling Cannon 24" S5 AP- Heavy 20)
LR Executioner 14/13/11 (Plasma Executioner Cannon 36" S7 AP3 Heavy 3)

Basilisk 12/10/10 Tank, Open Topped
Medusa 12/10/10 Tank, Open Topped (Medusa Cannon: 36" S10 AP2. Ordnance, or 48" S10 AP1 Blast Melta)
Colossus 12/10/10 Tank, Open Topped (Colossus Cannon: 24-240" S6 AP3 Ordnance, Ignores Cover Saves)
Griffon 12/10/10 Tank, Open Topped (Griffon Heavy Mortar: 12-48" S6 AP4 Ordnance, Re-roll to hit)

Manticore 12/10/10 Tank (Only 4 shots) (Eagle Missile Storm 24-120" S10 Ap4, Ordnance 1d3)

Deathstrike Launcher 12/10/10 Tank ("Heavy Artillery" Only 1 shot, may not fire turn one, each turn roll 1d6 +1 for each turn not fired, -1 for each crew stunned or weapon destroyed sustained on a 6 the missile fires) (R12-1000" S10 AP1 1d3+3 "areas" each area is 6"+1d3(3,5,8") in size)

Ogryn are 25pts, S5, T5 A3 Sv4+ with furious charge(?)

Valkyrie: If it moves more than 24" troops maynot embark or disembark; 12" or less troops may diembark with a dangerous terrain test
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Il Cap Scrisse: "Non sottovalutare mai il potere del bimbogigi... egli è subdolo e la forza (di devastare elementi scenici) scorre forte in lui... "

[Davide]

[Elenneth89]

cosi la guardia sarà forte... forse^^
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[Beppe]

il mio cinico realismo da Guardia mi porta a pensare che la maggior parte di queste belle notizie siano solo propaganda

volesse l'Imperatore che fosse tutto vero

onore a Lui e all'Imperium

[redeyes_f]

Vedo molta fantasia in questi rumors...

Alcune cose ci possono anche stare (Bestioni, commissari...), altre mi paiono veramente esagerate...
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[franz]

Perchè? Dopo una letta veloce, non vedo mica niente di stellare.

20 colpi.. ma a Fo5 gittata 24 ab3. Uno squadrone di warwalker spara volendo 24 colpi Fo6 a 36", ma non mi pare se ne vedano a frotte.
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[redeyes_f]

[Lord_Khazard]

probabilmente, si dice, alcune dei rumors più assurdi (deathstrike, medusa, colossus) in realtà sono per apocalisse
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[Gustovic]

[redeyes_f]

[zcharles]

E' solo una conversione, e mal riuscita anche, visto che il punisher spara MULTILASER depotenziato (fo5 vp- anzichè fo6 vp6; dovrebbe essere un raggio laser continuo, secondo me) e non poiettili solidi. Forse è quello fanoso sul regolamento nuovo, con 4 canne laser a fascio continuo. 20 colpi non si spiegano in nessun altra maniera, se pensi che 4 cannoni d'assalto farebbero 16 colpi (se non 8 binati...)
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Mmmmm....

[Gustovic]

leggere il secondo post e aprire i link
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182510
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"But lack of documentation, especially for such early times, is not to be considered as evidence of non-existance." - Ewart Oakeshott

Il Cap Scrisse: "Non sottovalutare mai il potere del bimbogigi... egli è subdolo e la forza (di devastare elementi scenici) scorre forte in lui... "

[franz]

Mammamia che bello il valkirie!
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[redeyes_f]

[zcharles]

Name Ws Bs St To Wo In At Ld Sv
Astropath 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+
Captain Al’rahem 4 4 3 3 2 3 2 9 5+
Rough Riders 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+
platoon commander 4 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Colonel Straken 5 4 6 4 3 3 3 9 3+
Captain Chenkov 4 4 3 3 2 3 2 9 4+
Company Commander 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 9 5+
Commissar 4 4 3 3 1 3 2 9 5+
Commissar Yarrik 5 5 3 4 3 3 3 10 4+
Conscript 2 2 3 3 3 3 1 5 5+
Heavy Weapons team 3 3 3 3 2 3 2 7 5+
Veteran heavy weapons team 3 4 3 3 2 3 2 7 5+
Guardsmen 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+
Garde du corps 4 4 3 3 1 3 2 7 5+
Penal Guard 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Bone head 4 3 5 5 3 2 4 7 5+
Jarran Kell 4 4 3 3 2 4 2 8 4+
Penal legionairre 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Lukas Bastonne 4 4 3 3 1 3 2 10 4+
Master of Ordinance 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+
Mentor 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 9 5+
Moghol Kamir 4 3 3 3 2 3 3 8 5+
Nork Dedog 4 3 5 5 3 3 4 8 4+
Fleet Officer 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+
Ogryn 4 3 5 5 3 2 3 6 5+
Ministorum 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 7 5+
Sanctioned Psyker 2 3 2 3 1 3 1 9 5+
Primaris Psyker 4 4 3 3 2 3 3 9 5+
Ratling 2 4 2 2 1 4 1 6 5+
Commissar Lord 5 5 3 3 3 3 3 10 5+
Sergeant 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+



Name Ws Bs St To Wo In At Ld Sv
Artillery Sergeant Harker 4 4 4 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Rough Rider Sergeant 3 3 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Shock Troop sergeant 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+
Veteran Sergeant 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 5+
Servitor 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+
Sly Marbo 5 5 3 3 2 5 4 7 5+
Techpriest 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 3+
Shock Troops 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 7 4+
Usarker Creed 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 10 4+
Veteran 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 7 5+

Weapons
Name Range St Ap type
Autocannon 48 7 4 Heavy 2
Exterminator Autocannon 48 7 4 Heavy 4, Twin Linked
Hydra Autocannon 72 7 4 Heavy 2
Bolter 24 4 5 Rapid Fire
Heavy Bolter 36 5 4 Heavy 3
Chemical Cannon Template 1 3 Poison (2+)
Melta Cannon 24 8 1 Small blast, Melta
Punisher Gatling Cannon 24 5 - Heavy 20
Inferno Cannon Template* 6 4 Heavy 1
Lascannon 48 9 2 Heavy 1
Eradicator Nova Cannon 36 6 4 Heavy 1, Large blast*
Executioner Plasma Cannon 36 7 2 Heavy 3, small blast.
Vanquisher cannon 72 8 2 Heavy 1*
Demolition Charge 6 8 2 Assault 1, Large Blast, One use only.
Storm Bolter 24 4 5 Assault 2
Meltagun 12 8 1 Assault 1, Melta

Name Range St Ap Type
Lasgun 24 3 - Rapid Fire
Shotgun 12 3 - Assault 2
Hellgun 18 3 3 Rapid Fire
Sniper Rifle 36 X 6 Heavy 1, Sniper
Flamer Template 4 5 Assault 1
Heavy flamer Template 5 4 Assault 1
Grenade launcher (Krak 24 6 4 Assault 1
Grenade Lancher (frag 24 3 6 Assault 1, Blast.
Missile Launcher (Kra 48 8 3 Heavy 1
Missile Launcher (frag 48 4 6 Heavy 1, Blast.
Plasma Gun 24 7 2 Rapid fire, Gets hot
Plasma Cannon 36 7 2 Heavy 1, Small blast, Gets hot.
Multiple Rocket Launcher 24 4 6 Heavy 1, Large Blast.
Hellfury Missile 72 4 5 Heavy 1, Large Blast, One use Only
Heavy Stubber 36 4 6 Heavy 3
Mortar 48 4 6 Heavy 1, Small blast, barrage
Multi Melta 24 8 1 Heavy 1, melta
Multi Laser 36 6 6 Heavy 3
Medusa Bunker Buster 48 10 1 Heavy 1, Blast.
Bolt Pistol 12 4 5 Pistol
Laspistol 12 3 - Pistol
Plasma Pistol 12 7 2 Pistol
Hellpistol 6 3 3 Pistol
Ripper gun 12 5 - Assault 3











Artillery
Name Range S Ap Type
Demolisher Cannon 24 10 1 Ordinance, Large Blast
Earthshaker Cannon 36-240 9 3 Ordinance, Large Blast
Medusa Cannon 36 10 2 Ordinance, Large Blast.
Deathstrike Missile 12-unlimited 10 1 Ordinance barrage, D3+3” Explosion, one Use only
Hellstrike Missile 72 8 3 Ordinance 1, One use only
Griffon Mortar 12-48 6 4 Ordinance barrage, Large Blast
Colossus Siege mortar 24-240 6 3 Ordinance, Large Blast
Battlecannon 72 8 3 Ordinance, Large Blast
Storm Eagle Rockets 24-120 10 4 Ordinance 1D3, Barrage, Large Blast

Vehicles
Name Bs Front Side Rear
Banewolf 3 12 12 10
Basilisk 3 12 10 10
Chimera 3 12 10 10
Colossus 3 12 10 10
Deathstrike 3 12 10 10
Devildog 3 12 12 10
Griffon 3 12 10 10
Hellhound 3 12 12 10
Hydra 3 12 10 10
Leman Russ 3 14 13 10
Demolisher 3 14 13 11
Eradicator 3 14 13 10
Executioner 3 14 13 11
Exterminator 3 14 13 10
Punisher 3 14 13 11
Vanquisher 3 14 13 10
Manticore 3 12 10 10
Medusa 3 12 10 10
Valkyrie 3 12 12 10
Vendetta 3 12 12 10

Sentinels

Name Ws Bs St Front Side Rear In At
Heavy Sentinel 3 3 5 12 10 10 3 1
Scout Sentinel 3 3 5 10 10 10 3 1

Alcuni sono imprecisi, tipo il demolisher è ancora fo10 vp2
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